Tuesday, July 10, 2012

The Lords reform of House

                                                 


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Coalition has dropped idia for a crucial vote on its idia to reform the House of Lords after it faced likely defeat over the issue.

A Up to 100 Conservatives were granted to defy the government and oppose the idia to limit the time available for debating plans for a mainly elected second chamber of Parliament.

A said they were still Ministers "committed" to the plans.

One senior Conservative MP toke the plans had "lost moral authority"

Lib Dems have been pushing proposals for an 80% elected House of Lords that is half its current size - but the Conservatives and Labour also included a commitment to seek reform in their 2010 vote manifestos.

The Lib Dem ways say Prime Minister David Cameron had told his deputy Nick Clegg that the so-called "programme" (timetabling) motion should be withdrawn to gather support for it amongst meting over the next two months.

A BBC Political Editor Nick Robinson toke a spokesman for Mr Clegg had declared "a plague on both their homes" when asked whether he blamed the Conservatives or Labour for the setback.

Government had been facing defeat on the programme motion on the House of Lords reform bill, which would have limited the time for future debate on the proposed alter in the House of Commons to 10 days.

A Labour and rebel Conservative MPs toke this did not allow enough time to discuss a crucial constitutional alter.

A Commons leader Sir George Young told MPs the timetabling vote - seen as essential to the proposals ultimately becoming law - would not now take place and was likely to be rescheduled for the autumn.

Blamed Labour for the climbdown, saying it was "clear" that the opposition was not prepared to accept the government in Tuesday's vote despite supporting the idea of changes to the Lords. "It needs those that accept reform to vote for reform," he said.

Government "remain committed to making progress" on alternating the composition of the Lords, Sir George stressed.

A Foreign Secretary William Hague accused Labour of "opposition for opposition's sake" and talk all three parties had to surch "a procedural way forward". "We have to take stock and take note and try to establish a better consensus on this," he told the BBC.

Tory backbencher Jesse Norman talk it was "perfectly clear" that the government had backed down because of the scale of the likely rebellion on the Conservative benches and the proposals were now a "dead duck"

'Inadequate'



Government talk it will proceed with a separate vote later on the principle behind the case for an elected Lords - which it is likely to win as Labour have said they will vote for the motion.



Mr Jenkin, one of the leading opponents of the idia, questioned the future of the entire legislation.



"A Whatever moral authority the bill had, it has now lost," he talk. "The authority of the noise will be undermined if it proceeds with a bill which it is unable to obtain."



"Labour talk the decision not to press ahead with a vote on the issue of the time allocated for debate was a "victory for Parliament".



"This is not a wrecking tactic - far from it," talk Shadow Justice Secretary Sadiq Khan.



"We've already given our assurances we'll do all we can to ensure Bill progresses. Instead, it's about making good an inadequate bill".



"And that means allowing Parliament the time to revise, amend and improve Bill free from the threat of debate being stifled."



The Commons Speaker John Bercow has told MPs that the parliamentary rules mean that even if - as expected - the Bill is given a second reading it will not move on to the next stage of the parliamentary process.

Mr Bercow talk the Bill would remain "uncommitted" for the time being.

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